today we announced SCHENKER VISION 15
, a brand-new laptop that is the second project in our collaboration with the SPG division in Intel.
https://preview.redd.it/8tmrfaskg7061.jpg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af13271adf976679089772efb4c2a35983082745 I already took some teaser pictures out here in Taipei, Taiwan Mainboard + Thermals with Core i7-1165G7
All real-life pictures:
- Based on Intel NUC M15: the new industry-standard reference implementation of the Tiger Lake and Project Athena platform
- Intel Core i7-1165G7 with 4 Cores and 8 Threads in 28W and a top-notch cooling system
- Over 90% sRGB Coverage, over 400 nits Brightness + Multi-Touch
- 180° opening angle and one-hand opening
- High-quality membrane keyboard
- Full metal unibody with anodised aluminium, i.e. no plastics, no paint, no magnesium -
- Extremely quiet even under full load
- Extremely cool in the keyboard area under full load
- Performance Profiles without 3rd party app, fully realised with the Windows battery slider
- Super-efficient LPDDR4X 4266MHz RAM, PCIe Gen4 x4 SSD Support with Samsung 980 Pro
- Stable DPC Latency
- 2x Thunderbolt 4 and Intel Xe Graphics thanks to Tiger Lake
- Thunderbolt 4 and USB-C Charging on both sides of the chassis
- Available in 25 keyboard layouts on Bestware.com
- Excellent laptop speakers out-of-the-box without 3rd party apps
- Long cable USB-C Charger already included in the package
- Long-term support thanks to Intel partnership
- Expected to be fully compatible with Thunderbolt docking stations and eGPUs
- Smart features such as Voice Assistant even when closed, Wake on Approach, Walk Away Lock, No Lock on Presence
A full review embargo will be lifted on December 4, 2020. But we can already share some of our internal testing with the i7-1165G7 in our samples:
- Cinebench R20
- Cinebench R23
- 3dMark TimeSpy: 1617 Graphics Score
- Prime95 Small FFT at 'Better Performance' profile:
- 77°C CPU Temperature, sustained
- CPU Clock: 3.1GHz, sustained
- Power Consumption (wall socket): ~40W
- 36.5db(A) fan noise in low frequency ranges
- Palm Rest: 28°C
- Keyboard: 31°C
- Bottom Case: 44°C
- Battery Life:
- Charge from 20% to 90% in 90 Minutes
- Up to 14 hours Wi-Fi web-browsing at 150 nits with a full charge
If you have questions for other specific benchmarks, please let us know in the comments below.
Our role in the 'WITH INTEL' partnership
We have already demonstrated with XMG FUSION 15 that we can be an equal partner to a giant such as Intel. Intel's reference design for the QC71 gaming laptop was sold world-wide through various brands, but no partner like XMG brought so much support and after-sales firmware fine-tuning to the table.
Over the lifetime of XMG FUSION 15 we were always first to release countless BIOS updates, including the major feature upgrade
in June 2020 which delivered highly sought-after premium updates to all existing customer, based on the feedback we have received from our community
over the months. Up until now, XMG FUSION 15 is still one of our gaming and content creation bestsellers and we plan to continue to support it well into 2021 because it is still a unique combination of form factor, battery life and performance that is still absolutely unparalleled in this industry.
With SCHENKER VISION 15, we plan to repeat this success. We have had countless meetings with Intel since the launch of FUSION 15 to help them shape their roadmap, to deliver customer feedback and help fine-tune the hardware and software solutions of the next generation. We have started testing samples of SCHENKER VISION 15 already months ago and have been instrumental in helping Intel to test their product outside of the lab in a real-life environment, with diverse usage scenarios and with a keen eye on fine-tuning and the quality of user experience. Already in our hands this product has gone through numerous firmware updates and we are looking forward to further fine-tune it ahead of the first consumer-ready shipment in January 2021.
Current List of Feature Requests
We already have a list of talking points with Intel to make sure that this product will go the last mile and reach 100% perfection. For the sake of tracking our progress with Intel, we will share some of the items here. [Last Update: November 19, 2020]
|Item ||Status |
|Include Fn+Ctrl = 'Context Menu' Key ||Confirmed, will be implemented |
|Tool to create custom user BIOS boot logo ||Mostly confirmed |
|Improvements on Fan Control at low temperatures ||tba |
|Modify or Disable Keyboard Backlight Sleep Timer ||tba |
|Ability to disable Fn Numpad in BIOS ||tba |
|Ability to disable Touchpad Toggle (top-left) ||tba |
Some of these requests mirror the things we have done on XMG FUSION 15 over time. For VISION 15, we hope to be able to deliver them faster. If you have a feature request, no matter how unique or obvious it is, please let us know in the comments below.
Pre-Order, SKUs and Shipping Schedule
We will open pre-orders on December 4, 2020. The first shipments should become available in the middle of January 2021 according to Intel's current build-plan. We will go for i7-1165G7 and 16GB only - there won't be any Core i5 or 8GB configuration from us.
We commited to All Silver, and All with Touch display. A 'Midnight Black' edition might be planned for later in Q1 2021.
FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions
Q: How does Intel Tiger Lake keep up with AMD's and Apple's latest CPU offerings? A:
Not too bad, I would say. The i7-1165G7 in VISION 15 beats AMD's 4000U series in Single Core performance and reaches ~75% of the result of the AMD Ryzen 7 4800U in Cinebench R20 Multi, despite having only half as many cores.
In Cinebench R23 Multi 10min Loop, the i7-1165G7 reaches ~77% of the result of Apple's M1 in the actively cooled MacBook Pro M1 - although it remains to be seen how these two competitors fare in the skin temperature vs. fan noise department. With a 15.6" housing and the very efficient cooling solution, we expect VISION 15 to be ahead of the 13" MacBook Pro in that regard.
But a CPU is not only about raw multi-core performance - it is also about the platform it is enabling. There is much to be said about the list of little-known features that Intel supports in Tiger Lake, but the key difference makers are PCI-Express 4.0 for outstanding SSD speed and Thunderbolt 4 for unparalleled connectivity. AMD still has no answer for Thunderbolt (and no USB 4.0 implementation either) and Apple's USB 4.0 implementation on the M1 silicon is reported
to lack support for eGPUs.
Other notable features in Tiger Lake compared to Intel's predecessors include:
- Support for 4 displays in total (Intel HD Graphics only supported 3)
- Native HDMI 2.0 and DisplayPort 1.4a
- QuickSync with AV1 hardware-decode up to 8K HDR
- Intel Gaussian & Neural Accelerator (Intel GNA) for AI acceleration
By the way, if you think Thunderbolt 4 is just a re-brand of Thunderbolt 3 - check out this video
of TechQuickie by LinusTechTips.
Q: How does the cooling and audio system of VISION 15 work exactly? A:
It's pretty simple. As you can see in the picture above, the it has a dual-fan cooling solution with one heatpipe for each fan. Now the base unit of the laptop has a mesh above the keyboard. This serves a double function as a kind of speaker mesh and air inlet. Despite the speakers being on the outer bottom edges of the chassis, the unibody is built in a way that it transports the sound very well to that mesh so that the sound feels like it's coming from the screen. The result is a very crisp audio volume - without having to fiddle with any 3rd party audio enhancement apps.
Q: How does the system behave while on-battery? A:
It is part of Intel's Project Evo
design guidelines that a system must not throttle too much when running on battery. In VISION 15 this is implemented perfectly, where neither CPU nor iGPU are performing below 95% of the 'plugged-in' performance on a full battery. This number might slightly go down when you battery approaches the lower levels, but you'll be able to work on VISION 15 with full power for a pretty long time overall. Your system will be fully responsive - no matter if plugged-in or on battery.
Q: Does VISION 15 support display output with VESA Adaptive Sync? A:
After already having pioneered NVIDIA G-SYNC in XMG PRO and ULTRA series in recent years, supporting the more open Adaptive Sync standard in as many models as possible is one of our design goals for 2021.
Intel Tiger Lake is the first mainstream CPU platform in which Intel’s iGPU is supposed to support Adaptive Sync according to Intel’s marketing claims.
We tested it on our upcoming XMG CORE 14 with i7-1165G7 and GTX 1650. VRR ouput worked fine*** via Thunderbolt 4 (aka USB-C/DP) with external monitors
as long as those are marketed either with “AMD FreeSync” or with “G-SYNC compatile”. Essentially, those are monitors that implement the VESA Adaptive Sync
industry standard. However, monitors that implement the proprietary
method of NVIDIA G-SYNC (with the built-in G-SYNC module) are not
able to support VRR from the iGPU in our tests.
* Curiously, with current Windows and driver, VRR only worked for content that was rendered on the NVIDIA dGPU even though it is indeed displayed through the iGPU framebuffer.
This chart is just FYI, based on XMG CORE 14. Please note that VISION 15 does not have a dGPU and is not planned to be upgraded with a dGPU either.
Now, VISION 15 does not
have an NVIDIA dGPU so we need to get it to work on iGPU instead.
According to our contacts in Intel, the lack of VRR on iGPU is due to missing Windows Update. According to Intel, everything already works fine on the “Windows 10 Iron” Build 21H1 19624.200504 (or later) which is currently only available for members of the Windows 10 Insider program. We will try to find out when this patch is supposed to hit the mainstream Windows Update cycles.
However, we don’t assume that proprietary NVIDIA G-SYNC panels will be able to be supported – same like AMD desktop graphics cards can’t support AMD FreeSync on those proprietary NVIDIA G-SYNC panels.
Meanwhile, VRR is called ‘Adaptive Sync’ in the Intel Graphics Command Center and is enabled by default.
Q: Will it be possible to apply Undervolting (Voltage Offset) on the CPU or iGPU? A:
We currently see no avenue to apply undervolting on any of the Tiger Lake systems we are launching. We have discussed the matter with the author of a popular free tool for Undervolting and tried a few unreleased Beta-versions and we are pretty confident in saying that Voltage Offset was still possible in Ice Lake but is currently hard-disabled in hardware for Tiger Lake. We have discussed this with our contacts in Intel and we'll make sure to send any feedback and concerns upstream to Intel.
Apart from Plundervolt which is discussed in this thread
, another reason to disable Voltage Offset might be the relocation of the voltage regulators (CPU FIVR, PCH FIVR) in the new architecture. We have reasons to believe that this have has strongly reduced the gains you can make with voltage offset. In other words: the system might already be working at peak efficiency by default. This might warrant further discussion in the future, perhaps when Intel is launching their Tiger Lake "H" series designs (still under NDA). If you have any unique insight on this topic, feel free to share your information in the comments below or via PM.
What we can
confirm is that the lowest Idle power consumption of TGL-UP3 has been greatly reduced compared to previous generations. It's now between 3 and 6W in all of the Tiger Lake systems we're currently launching where their Comet Lake (CML) predecessors were usually more like in the 10W ballpark.
Q: Any plans for a 4K resolution screen? A:
No plans right now. SCHENKER VISION 15 is fixed to deliver a very specific Full-HD Touch Displays with very high brightness and low weight and power consumption. There will be only that one panel - so there isn't going to be a panel lottery like with other brands. We do understand the demand for higher resolutions and we are seeking to be part of the push for high-DPI panels in appropriate form factors in the future. When we picked the new family name for this product, we thought of VISION to be not only our most forward-looking series in the SCHENKER portfolio but also to include products that have stunning visuals. I can already say that 2021 is going to be an exciting year on that front.
Q: How repair-friendly is VISION 15? A:
VISION 15 has seven (7) Torx T6 screws in the bottom cover. The choice for T6 is final as it provides more torque, leading to stronger build-quality without risking wear and tear (i.e. stripped screwheads). We are currently debating whether we should include a free Torx T6 screwdriver with every sold VISION 15. But you can also get them in any PC-centric screwdriver set.
Once you remove the 7 screws, the bottom lid opens very easily. You have access to the Battery, Wi-Fi module and the PCI-Express SSD. At that point you can also clean the fans and heatsinks with canned air.
Removing the mainboard will be very easy as well, requiring you to remove the SSD, Wi-Fi module, 5 ribbon cables and 7 additional screws. The mainboard comes out with the fans and heatsinks still attached as one solid unit.
The LPDDR4x memory is famously soldered on-board. That's why we opt to not offer any configurations below 16GB at launch. LPDDR4x is highly efficient and only available in BGA form. The efficiency helps with thermals and battery life, so it's actually a worthwhile trade-off.
Our cooperation with Intel on XMG FUSION 15 has convinced us that Intel is extremely efficient in their internal RMA handling. We will be able to buy spare parts directly from Intel's factory, but every barebone (minus SSD) will be able to be replaced in Intel's logistics hubs in Europe with zero turnover (Advanced Warranty Replacement, AWR) and very little communication overhead. Having such a strong partner in the back makes it even easier for us to offer our 48h warranty service to end-customers.
Q: How is the keyboard layout going to look like? What function keys do you have? A:
An overview over the German keyboard can be found here
. We will offer 25 different keyboard layout at launch - a list can be found here
VISION 15 continues our recent tradition to offer FnLock - so you can chose between having Fn functions or F keys as the primary input for the top row. Intel also implemented PageUp/Down/Home/End functions on the cursor keys which is something we have done on many of our recent models as well. Full list:
|Key ||Fn Function |
|Esc ||FnLock |
|F1 ||Standby |
|F2 ||Audio Mute |
|F3 ||Audio Down |
|F4 ||Audio Up |
|F5 ||Microphone Mute |
|F6 ||- |
|F7 ||Touchpad on/off |
|F8 ||Keyboard Backlight |
|F9 ||LCD Brightness down |
|F10 ||LCD Brightness up |
|F11 ||External Screen |
|F12 ||Flight Mode |
|Arrow ↑ ||Page Up |
|Arrow ↓ ||Page Down |
|Arrow ← ||Home |
|Arrow → ||End |
One item is still missing on the pictures: Fn+Ctrl will be 'Context Menu' key. This should come in one of the next firmware updates and the icon will be printed on the keyboard if we get the firmware early enough.
We are looking forward to your feedback!